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How do you flush an auto AC system?

Most automotive manufacturers recommend closed loop flushing with air conditioning refrigerant as a flushing agent. A benefit of this type of flushing is there is no danger of flush contamination , since the flush agent being used is the correct refrigerant for the A/C system.

Avoid this type of auto ac system flushing

Over the years many different liquids have been used as non-approved flushes for a/c systems. The more common are:

  • Alcohol
  • Brake cleaner
  • Carburetor cleaner
  • Mineral Spirits
  • Penetrating oil
  • R-11, R-12, R-113
  • Gasoline

The use of unapproved chemical flushes can result in damage to rubber components in sealing washers, auto ac compressor shaft seals, O-rings and hoses.

At no time should these products be used as a flush agent. If a compressor failure is caused by non-approved flushing agent being left behind in the a/c system, it can void the compressor warranty.

How often should you flush your auto AC system?

When an auto A/C system has become contaminated with air, moisture, flushing agents, the automotive ac compressor oil is contaminated with an incorrect type of oil or from debris from an internal auto ac component failure , or the system has been overcharged with oil, dye,  it must be flushed.

What happens if you don’t flush the AC system in your auto?

The debris created from internal auto ac compressor failure can accumulate and become trapped in the various a/c system components , and restrict the flow of refrigerant and oil. When used in a quantity beyond what the dye manufacturer recommends, dye can modify the viscosity of the ac compressor oil and becomes contaminant. Air as a contaminant may cause decreased auto ac cooling performance, create car ac compressor noise, or increase system pressures. Contaminated auto a/c systems may cause hvac compressor failure, air conditioning hose and line damage due to excessive heat and high pressure and overall automotive a/c system performance decrease.

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What can I use to flush an automotive AC system?

Most vehicle manufacturers recommend closed loop flushing with air conditioning refrigerant as a flushing agent.  A benefit of this type of flushing is there is no danger of flush contamination,  since the flush agent being used is the correct refrigerant for the automotive A/C system.

Non-Approved Automotive AC flushes

Non-Approved flushes : Over the years many different liquids have been used as a non-approved flushes for A/C systems. The more common items are:

  • Alcohol
  • Brake cleaner
  • Carburetor cleaner
  • Mineral spirits
  • Penetrating oil
  • R-11, R-22, R-113
  • Gasoline

Automotive AC system contamination with liquid flush agents

The use of unapproved chemical flushes can result in damage to rubber components in sealing washers , compressor shaft seals , O-rings and hoses.

Automotive A/C compressor internal damage

Unapproved chemical flushes when mixed with the auto ac compressor oil , it will alter the viscosity of the oil as well. Any material left behind in the a/c system after flushing will dilute the lubricant and cause performance issues , increased compressor noise and premature compressor failure. If compressor failure is caused by non-approved flushing agent being left behind in the a/c system it can void the compressor warranty.

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How can I protect my car AC compressor

How can I protect my car AC compressor?

How can I protect my car AC compressor?

  • keeping your car ac system properly refrigerant charged and with the right type of oil and  balanced.
  • Maintaining the A/C condenser free from debris
  • Replacing an A/C condenser with missing or bent fins.
  • Keeping the Cooling system performing at 100 % efficiency
  • Checking the Cooling system fan clutch or electric fans operating at 100 % efficiency
  • A/C refrigerant system free from air or other contaminations.

Protect Auto A/C compressor against lack of lubrication.

With a large refrigerant undercharge, oil is pumped out from the compressor and becomes trapped in the evaporator or other ac components of the system and is unable to properly return to the hvac compressor. The amount of oil in the compressor can get down to dangerously low levels creating excessive heat and, in most cases, leading to failure of the unit. Some Air conditioning tests has shown that with an undercharged ac system, the oil amount in the compressor was reduced by over 57%.

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How the a/c should be operating in order to cool down the interior of your car

Check inside the vehicle:

  • The A/C climate control should be set to Max Cold Position.
  • A/C Climate control set button On.
  • Recirculation/fresh air mode set to recirculate.
  • Engine temperature should be in the normal range (not overheating)
  • Outside ambient temperature should be sensing outside actual ambient temperature.(Ambient temperature should be above 37 F )
  • Engine RPM’s should in the normal everyday range.
  • With the A/C  blower on Max, the mass of air coming out from the vents should be strong.
  • Cabin air Filter should be clean.
  • A/C evaporator coil should be free from debris and leaks.

Check the engine compartment :

  • The front of the vehicle should be free from any road debris.
  • The radiator and A/C condenser should be free from leaves, bugs or dirt.
  • With the A/C system ON the radiator/condenser fan assembly should be operating.
  • The Drive belt should be running all the accessories and in good condition.
  • The A/C compressor CLUTCH should be engaged with A/C ON.
  • The A/C compressor ECV should be modulating the hvac compressor output for max cold.
  • All A/C lines and hoses should be free from dye, oil ,ice or damage.
  • The A/C system should be properly charged with exact amount of refrigerant specified by the manufacturer.
  • Hvac box drain tube should be draining water from underneath the vehicle.

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what could cause high ac compressor ratio

A high compression ratio can be caused by:

Overcharged A/C system.

Inefficient condenser.

Improper oil balance

A/C condenser insufficient air flow.

Dirty evaporator core.

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Auto A/C compressor, compression Test.

To check the auto a/c compressor compression ratio, note on paper the low and high side gauge readings and add atmospheric pressure to both readings. Divide the high side reading (with the atmospheric pressure added) by the low side reading (with the atmospheric pressure added).The result should be between 6.5:1 and 7.5:1. A compression ratio of 8:1 or higher may cause compressor failure. Learn More…

The A/C compressor is considered the heart of the refrigeration system. Compression ratio is the technical expression for pressure difference. Compression ratios are used to compare pumping conditions for a compressor and is an efficient way to evaluate the health of an air conditioning compressor.

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WHAT CAUSES CAR AC COMPRESSOR FAILURE

COMPRESSOR CRANKCASE TEMPERATURE

The refrigerant in the automotive system is the substance which not only transfer heat from the passenger compartment in the vehicle to the condenser outside of the car and then released the heat into the atmosphere, but it also cools the compressor down reducing the total heat of compression preventing the compressor from building up excessive pressure and temperature. A poor lubricated compressor could be operating in temperatures that could get up to 800 F

 

ELECTRONIC CONTROLLED VARIABLE DISPLACEMENT CLUTCHLESS COMPRESSOR AND LACK OF LUBRICATION

Electronic controlled variable displacement compressors could be clutch or clutch-less designs. The ac  compressor has a swash plate that rotates to reciprocate pistons, which compress refrigerant. The swash plate is allowed to change its angle which changes the stroke rate of the piston. They are electronically controlled using sensors and an Electronic Control Module (ECM)

Electronic controlled variable displacement compressor is always running even when the a/c is off. The ECM changes the rate of displacement, but the compressor is spinning connected to the drive belt without any clutch to disengage.

Lubrication occurs by using a sump in which the connecting rod splashes oil around the inside of the compressor. Some automotive air conditioning compressors use an oil pump to circulate the oil, like an engine lubrication system. Lubrication is accomplished while the ac compressor is running and there is refrigerant and oil circulating back to the compressor.

The (ECVD) clutch-less compressor should not be operated  without refrigerant in the system  to carry lubricant.

EXPENSIVE MISDIAGNOSIS AND UNNECESSARY COMPRESSOR REPLACEMENT

 These (ECVD) clutch-less compressors do not have a conventional clutch, meaning the compressor shaft turns all the time driven by the accessory drive belt, even when the a/c is commanded  off from the hvac temperature control assembly panel!

ECV CONTROL DIAGRAM

2015 HYUNDAI ELANTRA GT 2.0L

Source: ALLDATA Repair.

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Variable Swash Plate Compressor

The internally controlled variable swash plate compressor changes the swash plate angle by a MCV (Mechanical Control Valve) in accordance with fluctuation of a suction pressure.

The externally controlled variable swash plate compressor changes the swash plate angle by an ECV (Electric Control Valve) in accordance with an electrical signal from the heater & A/C control unit.

HOW TO QUICKLY DIAGNOSE CLUTCHLESS COMPRESSOR FAILURE

Without the right tools This new compressor output control technology can make it difficult to determine if the poor ac performance is being caused by a computer control malfunction or another problem in the refrigeration system or cooling system of the vehicle. This can result in an expensive misdiagnosis and unnecessary compressor replacement.

These are different tools that could be used for correct testing a diagnose of this units:

1.   A scan tool and checking PWM signal from the module to the ECV compressor .

2.  Handheld ECV Compressor tester unit to manually control the ECV on the compressor and increase or decrease (PWM)  the pumping capacity of the air conditioning.

3.  A scope can be used by carefully back probing the connector to the control valve and connecting the scope leads to the two wires and check the PWM wave signal

LOW REFRIGERANT AND LOW OIL CONDITION COULD LEAD TO AC COMPRESSOR DAMAGE

With a large refrigerant undercharge, oil is pumped out from the compressor and becomes trapped in the evaporator or other ac components of the system and is unable to properly return to the hvac compressor. The amount of oil in the compressor can get down to dangerously low levels creating excessive heat and, in most cases, leading to failure of the unit. Some Air conditioning tests has shown that with an undercharged ac system, the oil amount in the compressor was reduced by over 57%.

SYMPTOMS OF A BAD OR FAILING AC COMPRESSOR
  1. Poor ac performance  
  2. Growling noise
  3. Whistling noise
  4. Grinding noise
  5. Squealing noise
  6. Rattling noise
  7. Banging noise
  8. Knocking noise

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Car A/C air conditioning compressor clutch bearing.

Automotive a/c compressor clutch bearing failures are usually caused by system problems and not the bearing itself. Replacing the noisy bearing without finding the root of the problem and fixing it permanently will only lead to premature damage of a new component and a waste of time and money. Seals, compressor shaft and bearing could share the same enemy, heat.

What could cause damage to the ac compressor bearing in my car ?

  1. Excessively high temperature and lack of lubrication
  2. Slipping compressor clutches
  3. Over tensioned manual belt tensioners
  4. A leaking compressor shaft seal

A leaking compressor shaft seal could cause the compressor oil to find its way into the hvac compressor clutch bearing contaminating the grease. The properties of the bearing grease will be changed by this oil contamination causing it a poor compressor bearing lubrication and inevitably internal bearing failure.

 

What could cause the ac system in my car to buildup excessive high pressure and temperature ?

  1. Leaking air conditioning systems will leak out refrigerant and the oil that resides inside of the compressor creating a huge frictional resistance between the compressor piston and the cylinder leading to an increase in compressor internal temperature.
  2. Overcharged or improperly vacuumed auto ac systems will create high system pressures and therefore elevated temperatures.
  3. Compressor pressure plate and rotor pulley excessive air gap will cause slippage and rise in temperature.

Replacing just the bearing


A/C compressor factory bearing defects will not  need more than a few hours of compressor operation to become evident. Rarely the bearing itself is the culprit.

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What sound does a bad AC compressor make ?

Normal noises of the A/C operation include the sounds of A/C compressor clutch engagement, the blower motor, moving blend air and mode doors, and pressure equalization after vehicle is shut down. By early identifying the sound of a bad ac compressor on the vehicle, could make a big difference in terms of labor time and price of the repairs needed.

Noises that could indicate the need for a/c compressor service or replacement include:

  1. Growling noise with compressor disengaged
  2. Whistling noise
  3. Grinding noise
  4. Squealing noise
  5. Rattling noise
  6. Growling noise with compressor engaged
  7. Banging noise
  8. Knocking noise

Why is my AC making a weird noise?

Banging noise: If liquid refrigerant enters the compressor, a thumping, banging noise will result.

Knocking noise: Heavy knocking compressor noises come from refrigerant system blockage, incorrect pressures, or internal damage.

Growling noise with compressor disengaged: A worn compressor pulley bearing or clutch bearing will cause a growling noise.

Growling noise with the compressor engaged: A/C compressor internal bearings damage.

Squealing noise: A loose, dry, or worn A/C compressor belt will cause squealing noise. This noise will be worse during acceleration.

Worn or dry blower motor bearings may cause a squealing noise when the blower motor is running

Rattling noise: A loose or worn clutch hub or loose compressor mountings bolt will also cause rattling noise from the compressor.

Knocking noises: This type of noise from the compressor usually indicates internal damage, especially on piston-type compressors. Always check the compressor mounting and brackets before condemning the compressor for noise.

A loose mounting can cause knocking noises from the compressor area that may be mistaken for internal compressor noise.

Grinding noise: When car accessories pulley bearings are failing, they can make this kind of noise.

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